In November, 2010 we visited Charles Gaines in his studio to discuss his work in the exhibition "All of this and nothing", the "Manifestos". Gaines has been described as "one of the first, if not the first, African American, to work in the field of conceptual art." He is interested in how one experiences art and derives meaning from it. He focuses on the internal politics that form our ideas and feelings toward art, expressed through linguistic tools such as metaphors and metonyms.