Listen to R. Craig Miller, Senior Curator of Design Arts and Director of Design Initiatives Arts at the Indianapolis Museum of Art, and Penny Spark, design scholar of Kingston University in the U.K., as they discuss objects from the upcoming exhibition, European Design since 1985, at the Indianapolis Museum of Art. In this discussion, we see a contrast between the Hot Bertaa Kettle and Max le Chinois Colander, both by Phillippe Starck.